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A Sick Day

Posted by thedarwinexception on June 10, 2011

This morning we have John D. Bradley back on the stand for the re-cross by Jose Baez. Then let’s hope all this computer stuff is done with. It’s dull. And I’m really not sure I put a lot of stock in it. I wouldn’t want my internet searches to be a matter of debate. Because the side saying “She’s got to be guilty of something!” would win looking at the things I’ve clicked on.

Baez asks the witness if its true that he had the headers and footers from this file. He did. This meant that he had the entire file. The Orange County Sheriff’s Department had run “NetAnalysis” on this file and wasn’t able to parse it. This is true.

Baez asks about the alleged 84 visits to “Sci-Spot”. Baez asks if it’s true that Bradley doesn’t have 84 URLS for this site – he only has 2. The report that Baez has only lists one visit to this site. The report Baez has was generated by Bradley’s software – but Bradley didn’t author it. Bradley explains that the history file keeps a counter. It only lists the URL once, the last time it was visited. It keeps a counter for the other prior visits. Baez asks Bradley if the page can auto-refresh. Bradley says he doesn’t know.

On Re-Direct, Bradley explains how a page refreshes. He says that generally, a page is refreshed only when the user tells it to refresh.

And with that, he’s gone. And Lee Anthony is back. Let’s hope his testimony comes with a little less reluctance than last time. Good God.

On July 15th -16th, Lee Anthony was on his family computer trying to find the SawGrass Apartments and some other things. He was doing some internet searching. He never deleted any internet history. In August 2008, Casey returned to the house (from jail, but Mr. George doesn’t say that). At that time, Lee was able to have some private conversations with Casey. During one of these conversations Casey related to him a different version of how Caylee was taken from her. Casey told him at this time that Casey had met Zanny and Zanny’s sister and Zanny’s sister’s children at Jay Blanchard Park. During this meeting, Zanny held Casey down and told her that she was taking Caylee from her. And she did that with the help of her sister Supposedly this occurred while they were sitting on a park bench and Casey was held by the wrists.

Lee testifies that Casey told him the reason that Zany took Caylee was because Zanny thought Casey wasn’t a good mother and Zanny wanted to teach her a lesson. Zanny also told Casey not to go tot he police.

Lee also testifies as to the description of Zanny that Casey gave him – 5 foot 10’ish, Spanish, good complexion, dark, very attractive, shoulder length hair, 100 pounds.

Casey told Lee that as Caylee was being taken from her she just couldn’t believe what was happening – she thought it was all surreal. She told Lee she couldn’t stop it because she was scared and didn’t know what to do. Casey said that after Zanny took Caylee, Zanny was controlling Casey and Casey’s movements – like by hacking into Casey’s MySpace account and posting messages for Casey to see – and Zanny would tell Casey places to go and Casey would go there in hoped of seeing Caylee and to obey Zanny. Casey’s password was “Timer55”. Casey said that the password was a countdown to the number of days between the time Caylee was taken and Caylee’s birthday. Casey told Lee that she did not create this password – that Zanny did.

Cross of Lee by Baez – Baez says “OK – so Casey told you another story about the imaginary Zanny the Nanny”. And the way he says it kind of is funny. Baez confirms that this time, Zanny told Casey not to call the police, and that Zanny would tell her what to do and to control her – and to like go places, and maybe see Caylee. Baez asks “was this like phone booths and stuff?” and Lee says “I think stores and stuff.” (My guess is “popular bars and restaurants…”) Baez asks Less if any of these outings ever resulted in Casey finding the imaginary Zanny the Nanny or Caylee. Lee says to this date, no.

And Lee is excused.

The Judge reads a stipulation to the jury:

“On December 11, 2008, an Orange County Utility dispatcher made a recorded call to 911 that was received by the Orange County Sheriff’s office a 9:31:02 hours. The recording is a true and accurate representation of the call. The parties have agreed to this fact and it should be considered as true in your deliberations.”

The state plays and enters into evidence the Orange County Utility Dispatcher’s call to 911 to report that Roy Kronk had found a human skull.

Next up is Deputy Edward Turso – He was assigned to Sector 2 Patrol Division back on December 11, 2008. He responded to the call on Suburban Drive. He arrived at the call at 9:32 am. The area was an intersection, with a wooded area to the right. He met with a Roy Kronk when he arrived. He asked Mr. Kronk how he could be of assistance, and why Kronk had called 911. Kronk informed the officer that he had had to go into the wooded area to relieve himself, and he had found what he thought was a human skull. The deputy said “Show me”. Kronk led the deputy into the woods and down a path. They actually passed the item that Kronk had seen earlier, but they were able to backtrack and locate a plastic bag and a skull. The deputy went over to the bag, looked at the skull for a moment and they left the area right away. Neither one of them touched anything they had found.

Once they left the woods, Turso had Kronk return to his car, and Turso called his Sergeant. Turso had Kronk begin to write his statement and Turso roped off the area with crime scene tape. Turso stayed until other units responded and took over control of the scene.

Cross of the witness – Baez asks Turso if Kronk told him that he had called three times in August about this scene. Turso says no, he didn’t. Baez asks how far the witness went into the woods, and he answers “twenty feet or so”. Baez ascertains that this was 20 feet from the street. He tries to get the witness to testify that there was a “weed line”, the witness isn’t sure. Baez asks how far past the bag they went when they first went into the woods, the witness says “five feet or so”. Baez asks if there was a fallen tree next to the skull. The witness says there was a lot of vegetation. This witness did not see a white canvas bag. He didn’t see a red bag, either

Baez asks the witness if he directed Mr. Kronk to his car and asked him to write a statement. The witness says yes. When Baez asks the witness if he gave Kronk any other directions, the witness acts confused. Baez asks if the deputy gave Kronk any other directions, as a police officer, about what to do or what not to do The deputy says “not to my recollection.”

The witness is excused. As is the jury. The judge addresses the members of the audience. He tells them that the next witness is going to testify about certain crime scene photographs. He tells the audience that if they have queasiness or uneasiness about viewing this type of photo, or if they will have facial reactions or if they can’t control their emotions, they should get out now.

The pool photographer is also ordered to blur or pixelate any photograph that contains skull. The judge orders that no one else- including journalists – can use any cell phone or any other electronic device to capture a photograph. If they try, their electronic device will be immediately confiscated by the court deputies.

The next witness then takes the stand. She is Jennifer Welch. She works in the forensics unit of the Orange County Sheriff’s Department. She is a crime Scene investigator within the forensics unit. She was called to the Suburban Drive Crime Scene. It was the 8900 block. She arrived at about 11:25 hours. It was raining, dense vegetation and there were several law enforcement personnel present. None of them were in the woods – they were in the street north of the wooded area. A crime scene area had been taped off. She took photographs of the scene prior to entering the wooded area. She identifies these photos – showing the thick vegetation, the overgrown path and the landmarks within, including a fallen “Kinder Care” sign.

The office of the medical examiner, with this witness present, recovered a skull from the woods. Along with a black plastic bag, an off white canvas bag, and a red plastic Disney bag. There were also “clothing remnants” found – a collar with a tag still attached to it, as well as a blanket first identified by this witness as “a towel”.

This witness also describes, as found, “the front of the skull with duct tape”.

On Cross – Baez asks the witness if it’s true that as a Crime Scene Investigator her primary job is to document the scene. She says this is true. She is trained extensively at how to do this. She agrees that the more people who are at a crime scene, the higher the risk of contaminating the scene. The witness also agrees that she looks for signs that a scene is staged.

Baez shows the witness a photo of the skull with the duct tape attached, and tried to get the witness to agree that the duct tape is “flat on the ground”. She doesn’t quite agree.

Baez also asks about Medical Examiner Hansen collecting the skull and the duct tape. Baez points out that Hanson “applied pressure” to lift the skull, and he’s not wearing protective footwear, and neither is the person next to him. And Hanson appears to be stepping on other pieces of evidence that were eventually collected.

Investigator Welsh is excused. Next is Medical Examiner’s Investigator Steven Hanson – the guy with no protective footwear.

He has been with the Orange County Medical Examiner’s office almost 7 years. Before that he was the Crime Scene Manager for Palm Beach County. Before that he was a Crime Scene Manager in Texas.

His responsibilities include supervision and scheduling for all investigators, and he works cases himself. On December 11th, 2008, at around 11 in the morning, he was notified of a crime scene on Suburban Drive. He took photos and removed the remains that were found.

Hanson testifies that when he got back into the wooded area, the skull and other items of interest had to be pointed out to him, because the area was heavily overgrown and there was a lot of vegetation. There was an overgrown log in the area, and the skull was to one side of the log, the bags and other items were to the other side.

At first glance, he did not see the duct tape on the skull. When he examined the skull more thoroughly, he did see the duct tape on the skull.

Eventually, the crime scene investigators cleared the area of most of the above ground level vegetation. This took them approximately 3 or 4 hours. They didn’t immediately inspect or move the skull or the other evidence. Later, when he was able to look at the skull more closely, Hanson could tell that there were stands of hair embedded in the duct tape that was on the skull.

Hanson explains that his job, as a Crime Scene Investigator for the Medical Examiner’s office, is slightly different than the job of a regular Crime Scene Investigator. He investigates death scenes, and is responsible for reporting to the Medical Examiner how the scene looks and how it is related to the remains. He is responsible for putting the scene into perceptive as it relates to the remains so the medical examiner can better determine the circumstances surrounding the death. He focuses more on the scene itself as it relates to the remains.

Florida Law gives the Medical Examiners office full custody and control of the remains. That office works hand in hand with Law Enforcement. Law Enforcement controls the crime scene, but the Medical Examiner has authority over the remains. One issue that presented itself here was the bag – the medical examiner thought that there might be remains in the bag, They were hoping that all the remains were in the bag – that would have made it a much simpler case, rather than having to sift through the wooded area they were in. But because they felt the bags contained remains, they considered those bags part of their jurisdiction.

Hanson testifies that the skull seemed to be embedded in the leaves and vines that were around it. Hanson cannot say whether or not it was in the dirt, but it was within the leaves and other foliage that was upon the surface. In the photos the leaves are shown to be at about eye socket level on the skull.

Hanson wanted to move the skull and the tape together, so he decided to move the skull and some of the foliage with it. They had no idea what other items of evidentiary value was contained in the foliage. So he “scooped” up the skull and as much of the foliage around it (around 6-8inches around it) as he could gather in one “batch” and put it all into a large paper bag.

Hanson also collected the plastic bag and the canvas bag that was next to it. There were also “long bones” that were in the area that he collected, as well as the clothing remnants and the blanket. Hanson turned all these items over to Dr. Utz, the Assistant Medical Examiner. A day or so later, Dr G. (“Medical Examiner” from the TV show of the same name) took over for Dr. Utz.

Over the next few days, Hanson went back and forth between the scene collecting the evidence and bones that the crime scene investigators were finding during their extensive search. His last trip to the crime scene was the 17th of December, to gather remains and what the investigators thought could be remains. Dr. John Schultz was the anthropologist working on the scene at Suburban Drive.

Cross by Cheney Mason. Mr. Mason shows the witness one of the pictures entered into evidence by the state – and asks the witness what he sees in the picture. The witness points out two things – one is a machete and one is an arrow. The witness says that he hadn’t noticed the arrow before today – and he has no idea who brought the machete to the scene. It’s not something that he used.

Mason asks Hanson about the “rotted log” and asks who moved it. The witness says that after he photographed the log, he moved it.

Hanson says he has no firsthand knowledge that the skull had been moved before he got there.

Hanson cannot testify to what happened to the skull after it got to the medical examiner’s office – that was Dr. stuff. Over the next few days he went back to the site to collect more evidence as it was being found – but he was involved in the transportation, but not the analysis, he says. Mason asks him if they were assembling a skeleton from the evidence and bones Hanson was bringing back from the site. Hanson again says he wasn’t involved in that. Mason asks him if he “observed” it – and he says yeah, but when he did observe it, he wasn’t there to observe it – that’s not what he was there for.

Mason asks if that process was photographed. Hanson says “Not by me”.

Hanson says he did not photograph the entire log before he moved it – and he doesn’t know if anyone took a photograph of him moving it.

Hanson is excused.

Next witness is Dr. Gary Utz – who is the chief Deputy Medical Examiner for Orange County. He has a BS in Biology, and an MD. The primary focus of his current practice is Forensic Pathology, and this has been his primary focus since 1997.

Prior to the remains being bought to him,he was aware of the case of Caylee being a missing child. He became aware that the remains might have been found when he was in a deposition at his office for another criminal case and Dr. G (“Medical Examiner”) came to him, interrupting the deposition, and told him that skeletal remains had been found and that there was a possibility that these remains might belong to Caylee. She was leaving town and she asked Dr. Utz if he would take charge until she returned.

Dr. Utz was in contact with Investigator Hanson while he was on site, and Hanson told Utz what the situation was, what he had found, and what he would be returning to the office with. Utz says that he was prepared to receive these items in the morgue and to examine the items preliminarily and return some of the items to the FBI agent assigned to the case so that he could transport them to the FBI lab. This is one of the reasons Dr. G. had asked someone to take over for her during her absence – so that this transfer of evidence could take place.

Dr. Utz says that he received several bags – one of them being a large bag that contained another bag filled with leaf litter, clothing and remains, then there was another bag that contained a skull, scalp hair and tape. Dr. Utz is then shown the photographs that were taken at the Medical Examiner’s Office.

Utz identifies photos of the leg bone that Hanson found, as well as the bags, the skull with the duct tape over the lower portion of the face and around the mandible, with hair sticking above the top of the skull. The tape appears to come around the side of the skull. There is foliage and vines and plant roots entwined in the skull.

Dr. Utz says that the mandible being attached to the skull the way it is, when the skull has been this decomposed, is very unusual. Dr. Utz says that in a case like this, a body being found outdoors, this decomposed, generally the skull and the mandible wouldn’t even be found together. Normally the skull will move – because it is round, and will roll, and usually the mandible will be left behind at some point.
In this case, because of the hair mat, and the level of vines and growth, the mandible and the skull are being held together. The tape itself was no longer adhesive, but there were still small portions of hair attached to it. And part of the tape that was attached to the hair, was still attached to the mandible. In fact, it was part of the fabric of the tape, not the tape itself, that was attached to the mandible.

Dr. Utz eventually removed the tape from the skull. He had to cut the air and the fabric portion of ht tape to release them from the mandible. The tape was given to the FBI for examination.

After going through photos of the skull, the hair, the tape, the bags, the bones, the laundry bag, the vines, the debris, the little shorts……Casey gets ill and court adjourns because “Miss Anfony isn’t feeling well….”

Yeah, you know, I’ll bet she’s not feeling well. I’ll bet the weight of her fucking conscience is weighing heavy on her. Or maybe Jose is slipping her some contraband food and her body isn’t used to like sugar and whatever else is considered contraband in jail. Or maybe she’s just not used to being around people and the sudden exposure to 50 stampeding members of the public has exposed her to germs and viruses that most jail inmates haven’t yet become immune to.

But I don’t think court should have been adjourned to accommodate her, because mostly I think she’s just starting to realize that her goose is cooked, and the sudden temperature rise is affecting her.

But, “Miss Anfony” gets a reprieve of a few hours. No worries, she can’t put this off forever.


12 Responses to “A Sick Day”

  1. QueBarbara said

    Thanks again for the summaries, Kim.

  2. michellefrommadison said

    Experts are saying a conviction of first-degree murder against Casey Anthony is highly unlikely. I happen to agree after seeing Baez kick the snot out of the prosecution on every witness and every topic. What happened to obtaining justice for Caylee?

    • “Experts” aren’t really saying that a conviction is unlikely because of Mr. Baez, but because the cause of death is, ultimately, unknown. Although the manner of death is clearly homicide, it can sometimes be difficult to get a conviction when the jury doesn’t have a clear cut idea of what cuased the death. And there may be those jury members who believe that the death was not a premeditated homicide, but one done “in the heat of the moment” or, even, accidentally. But the duct tape, and the presentation yesterday of the superimposition of the duct tape, skull, and photograph, may sway those jurors who are conflicted about the cause of death.

      And I haven’t seen Mr. Baez *yet* “kick the snot” out of *any* witness. If you have interpreted any of his cross examination as such, I take it you haven’t really been exposed to a lot of cross examination. I practice better technique than Mr Baez has shown when questioning my dogs on which one of them shit on the rug.

  3. Simply Unbelievable said

    MichellefromMADison – Imaginary experts don’t count!

  4. V. said

    On the one hand, I can’t imagine the horror of viewing your murdered daughter’s skull. OTOH, I can’t help but think it never occurred to Casey that once you dump your child’s dead body into the weeds, it will rot to the bones. I would hope Casey has just had an epiphany that this is ultimately not about her, but about Caylee. I expect, however, we will never know what actually happened, as Casey is incapable of TRVTH.

  5. tess said

    Michelle, are we watching the same trial? Mr. B has more than a mountain to climb to defend his client. So far, the CIC of the prosecution is laying out a very understandable, definitive timeline of what happened and when. Mr. Baez isn’t making a dent. In case you didn’t notice, he gets overruled in an overwhelming number of his objections. He is just preserving the record for when his client gets convicted for an appeal process. The prosecution has dismantled his theory on what happened. It will be a treat to see what he comes up with in his CIC.

  6. Venice said

    Dear Blog Owner,

    Please be aware of this blogger michellefrommadison….Jason Allen Bizack. He is an identity thief who has stolen all my personal information off of Facebook and is now posting with my personal avatar. (He used to post with my face). If you can replace my stolen avatar with anything else, it would be greatly appreciated. He has been banned from 90% of the blogs, and I’d hate to see you as his next victim. Please be aware!!! Thank you.

    • Well, I kind of figured “Michelle from Madison” was a troll. Just by some of the comments. I hate to block anyone just because they have a “differing opinion”, I think that tends to stifle healthy debate – and it sounds too much like some of the other “boards” around that tend to block anyone who makes a comment not in line with the current trend of what the moderators believe to be true. I had thought of discarding the comments as “spam”, but then figured that an opposing view – no matter who it came from – might be a good way to consider other people’s points of view.

      But since you have specifically lodged a complaint, I’ll block “Michelle From Madison” until he/she makes an appeal or a rebuttal of your comments. If “Michelle from Madison” can not or will not convince the rest of the group that he/she has a right to post as “Michelle from Madison” and that the avatar and information he/she is using is not your identity and property, well, I guess that person shall not be approved to comment further.

      • Venice said

        Thank you so very much!

      • Venice said

        If you would like links into his mindset, just let me know. I also can give you verification of another identity theft victim of his. Thank you and just beware of this person!

  7. Sean said

    5′ 10″ and 100 pounds???? That isn’t attractive in the least, that’s skin and bones!

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